Chris Difford is joined by Tom Odell for a podcast chat

In this episode, Chris invites singer-songwriter Tom Odell to discuss the highs and the lows of the fine art of songwriting. The pair also discuss their shared history which goes back to Tom’s time as a music student in Brighton. The conversation also takes in the brilliance of Elton John, how it’s hard to practice piano quietly and the dark side of Los Angeles. 

The episode also features Gallia, a pop artist, writer and producer from Liverpool who received Help Musicians’ coronavirus hardship funding during lockdown. I felt like I was being punished for trying to chase my dreams and do music for a living. I’m so grateful to Help Musicians for their support, I don’t know what I would’ve done without it”. 

Tom is the twelth guest on the podcast, with previous episodes featuring Robbie Williams, Amy Wadge, Billy Bragg and Sting, each offering a unique insight for music lovers and creators alike into life as a recording artist. 

The series coincides with our 100th year as a charity and explores what makes someone want to pursue music as a career, and the ever-changing landscape in which they operate. 

Help Musicians has been needed more than ever this past year, providing over £17m in support to 21,000 professional musicians during the pandemic, many of whom slipped through the gaps of government support. 

By coming on these podcasts, and speaking honestly about their own challenges, the guests are lifting the curtain on what can be an incredibly difficult career. It comes at a time when live music is beginning to return, and while the charity adapts to support the musicians returning to work. 

Through our Music Minds Matter service we also support those in the industry who, like Robbie, experience mental health challenges. The service has seen a huge surge in demand as the music world continues to live with the impact of the pandemic. 

I Never Thought It Would Happen is available for free on all major platforms, including Spotify, Apple, Amazon and Castbox. Please subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts. 

The series is hosted on Audioboom and produced by Gimme Sugar.